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Hi guys we have fostered two children who are placed with us permanent. We would love to give them a life without social services in their life's and I would love to have my home and life back. I'm not sure where to start. I'm not confident enough in speaking to my social worker. I'm wanting to know anything about the process, finances etc. my partner is self employed in their business and not sure what financial benefits we would be entitled to considering I would be adopting but also giving up my full time job as a foster carer? Has anyone done this and can offer advice?


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We did that but the reality is that you still don't really get SW out of their lives....


Also adoption is seen as the cheap option as for most cases allowances aren't paid....you would get child benefit (about £30/week for two kids) and may get child tax credit depending how much your husband earns.


The other major downside to adoption - there is far less access to therapies that that children may need and far less support for you (in fact many adopters find they are blamed for the kids issues)


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How do you mean you don't get the sw out your lives? Is that due to ongoing therapeutic Suport?


I really want to work out realistically what I would be entitled to if I was to give up work as a foster carer and become a adoptive parent. Obviously I no my income would drop considerably but what I loose in one hand I would hopefully get my life and flexibility back in anothet


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You'd only be entitled to the same things you would if you were a birth parent. You could ask for an adoption allowance but it's not a given that you'd get one and as you say, you'd lose your fostering money.


I've adopted three - we still have sws, therapists and other profs in our lives many years in!


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Where would I start even looking at what I would be entitled too? Partner is self employed with business so leaving fostering could leave me unemployed and dot think I could go to work full time due to childcare etc so need to try and work out different options based on our own specific cercumstancea


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Hi, you can apply to adopt the children if you've looked after them for at least a year. The court will ask the sw for a report on your suitability. Also legal stuff needs to happen around officially placing a child for adoption, but I'm not an expert in this. I'm a long way into adoption and I'm afraid the social workers and other professionals still play a part in life here. In your position I'd argue that the children still need the same level of support i.e. You full time at home so they should make an allowance that enabled you to continue at that level.

Really think very carefully about this because the tough bit is once adopted those kids needs are going to go on, your money down and commitments up. With Facebook and insta etc being with birth family is dead easy so you're looking at a very different picture than years ago.


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We adopted our (complex needs ) fc last year. We were able to agree an adoption allowance by the childs social worker doing a business case to show how much money would be saved by allowing us to adopt him. It had to go to the person who holds the overall budget for the la but was approved until 18. So far we have not had any further sw involvement though due to his extensive needs we will have to access disabilities team at some point but if no extra needs then you should be ok unless seeking post adop support.

You can as already mentioned just put an adopt applicstion in yourselves direct to the court who would then get the la to adoption team to assess etc. This can be a good way to go but you need to be aware that if you go that route you cannot ask for any financial support in the form of an adoption allowance . Hope that helps.


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Hi,

We adopted our foster child.

Its acknowledged generally by many agencies that you are losing your income and legislation suggests that you should have 2 years of transitional adoption allowance equivalent to your current fostering allowance. This is generally offered less any benefits (child benefit, CTC) so that you arent actually better off adopting. Some LAs will exclude the recompense element of your allowances if you get one, others will look at a whole sum.

In reality what that meant for us 10 years ago was dropping from £210 a week to around £145 a week from panel date. That payment continued for 2 years then they dropped it again to Boarding Out allowance less child benefit - so just under £50 a week.


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Thanks guys. That's really helpful. The children don't have any complex needs really atm and are a dream to care for. I think in teenage years I will need support when they make sense of what happened to them and something I would push for.


In a way two years is good but in another daft as like a comment above the amount of money that social services would save per year would be amazing


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Is the social work dept plan for these kids to be adopted, or is it for LTFC ? We tried to adopt one LTFC who was a sibling of our adopted child, but SW just said the plan for him was LTFC and that wouldn't change. It's usually the latter if SW think they have stronger birth family links or their birth identify is significant. Though sometimes it may just be they think it unlikely they will find folks willing to adopt , some LA's just prefer fostering to adoption ( one council we know only fosters kids, doesn't"do" adoption) sometimes just kids are designated for LTFC because of age ( we noticed that early plans for one of ours were LTFC, it changed in the notes round about the time we indicates our interest in a child his age !! Not sure what age your kids are, but if old enough to indicate, then you will also need to make sure they definitely want to be adopted. It won't work very well otherwise.

Part time jobs in school kitchens and tax credit and child benefit was how we managed for a long time. It can be done, lots of folks do it. It was worth it for us as we wanted to adopt and be our own family , but also give the kids the security of not being "in care." SW have no involvement post adoption unless you ask them for support for specific issues. ( most of which we found easier to get from school, doctor, etc)

I have occasionally heard of kids being moved on from foster carers who expressed an interest In adopting said kids, so be careful what you say to SW meanwhile. If deciding to "go for it" then apply to the court first.

Good luck whatever you decide.


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I agree that first step is to sound out the sw, if they are on board then it makes it much more straightforward and if they say the children are ltfc only ( which they may as pingu said above ) then you can apply direct to the courts as long as you are not wanting an adop allowance ( as discussed in previous post ).

The courts then have to look at adoption and whether that is in the childrens best interests and if it is then soc services will have to go with that , although it can be tricky as they are the ones doing your assessment ,

If you do put in an application to adopt direct to the courts then soc services cannot move the children whilst the case is being looked at so this is your best move if they start to make noises about removing them from your care . X


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Our daughter's old foster carer has adopted 2 as a single mum on low income. It's a hell of a struggle for her, but ultimately it's different being a FC to being a parent and she felt she needed to be their parent. Many FC perform the role of parents over many years, but ultimately are at the whim of SS. I suspect the biggest factors might be:


1. Could you cope with the idea that at some point they might be moved FC?

2. Can you afford the probable loss of income?

3. Is there anything that stops adoption being viable (family links as PP suggested).


In most cases I think you'll find SWs would be supportive of you adopting. Don't forget that if they are toddlers you get 15 or 30 hours of child care, so part time employment may well be viable.


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If there are strong family ties and you have contact in place you could always continue that post adop. Our adopted fc has a direct annual contact with birth parents which was our suggestion . However i would not agree to that being that written into the adoption order as it will then be legally binding rather than at your discretion as it were.

Also finance wise could you continue to foster in the future if you have room ? You would probably have to take a years break post adop though.


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